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A quick note on gay marriage

James Robins | View Archive August 16, 2012, 10:58 am
NEW YORK, NY - JULY 24: Anti Gay marriage protesters from the Westboro Baptist Church attend the first day of legal same-sex marriage in New York State on July 24, 2011 in New York City.

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Right, this will be said once. Damn those who fail to hear it.

Marriage equality as a topic of debate has risen rather quickly following the tabling of Labour MP Louisa Wall’s push for the acknowledgement of some basic principles of humanity and solidarity.

While I defended Labour MP Su'a William Sio for insisting the bill could wait while we fix the economy, there is a more basic argument that must be addressed – and I’m angry that it even needs to be dealt with at all.

There exists a culture in our country, just as any other nation might experience, of bigotry, ignorance, misinformed disgust, and (sometimes) fully-formed hatred.

For the most part, it is older, white New Zealanders who, given a moment’s notice, begin to rail against that Great Social Evil – political correctness. But in the process, and often unwittingly, they will exhibit racist, sexist, and homophobic behaviours and defend the rights of their community to spread hatred and mistrust.

These fanatics and close-minded philistines insist that if gays be allowed to marry then what’s to stop a man marrying a goat? Or a bucket of shark’s piss?

Gays, homosexuals, lesbians, queers – take whatever term you fancy – are human beings, just like you and I.

The reason why a man may be not be able to marry a mallard duck is because a mallard duck is not human. The duck cannot reciprocate nor articulate the love he may feel for the human, and he sure can’t sign a marriage license as a consenting adult.

Which leads me on to this consideration: that marriage is somehow protected by God.

Whose God should we refer to, then?

A Jewish marriage carries different rights and rituals to an Islamic marriage, just as a Catholic marriage differs entirely from a Mormon one.

The only way to get around this is to define marriage under the law as entirely secular: the State issues two consenting adults (who can both sign the form) with a license to marry, and then a marriage certificate. Between those two points, once is free to do whatever they like. Have a Scientology wedding, have a Star Wars-themed wedding: it’s entirely up to you.

If you are religious, and believe that marriage is ordained by God for the purpose of procreation and the building of a family unit, and you believe this will lead to the creation of a strong society, that should be your right.

If you are gay man and wish to be married as a rightful representation of the love, devotion, commitment, and honesty that you experience between yourself and your partner, then that should be your right. And if you wish to either use IVF or adoption as a means to provide a caring, nurturing and safe environment for your own children that has been proven to be no different from the a traditional family in terms of intelligence and emotional wellbeing, then that should be your right.

Fear is often a product of ignorance. It’s an essential evolutionary question: trusting something one knows little about could be hazardous to one’s survival. And so it is with that reserved, though sometimes outspoken, portion of our society who insist on spreading their fear. Further, they never step forward to take responsibility for condemning gays as somehow retaining a ‘choice’.

Perhaps crucially, marriage as a social or legal contract pre-dates any form of Judeo-Christian ritual and cannot be claimed as theirs to oversee and officiate over.

Let’s not forget that just over 50 years ago – within our own lifetimes – it was often a crime for someone of colour to marry a white person. That person of colour, in some parts of the world, was not even allowed to eat or defecate next to a white person.

There’s a distinct tie to be made between those who consider the above attitudes to be reasonable, and those who consider homosexuals to be lesser people.

To anyone who clutches these flagrant, immoral, nauseating, and depraved arguments: one day you will look back on your arcane beliefs and hang your head shame at the happiness you wished to deprive your fellow human beings of.

I expect an apology, and I expect it now.


Update I, 30/8/12: From Newstalk ZB, "The Bill paving the way for gay marriage has cleared its first hurdle in Parliament. Louisa Wall's marriage amendment legislation was sent to select committee last night by a larger margin than expected. 80 MPs supported the Bill, 40 voted against."

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  1. Gary04:20am Friday 28th December 2012 ESTReport Abuse

    Who is questioning the fallout of gay marriage when the children within these relationships have issues to face ... are they brought up to be gay or straight children..do two lesibians raise a straight female child ..same theory..two gay males ..do they raise gay kids...if this is the cade jow many gender confused kids are going to be in socity in yhe next generations to come if a bill like this gay marriage one is passed ? :(

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  2. Global06:48am Friday 30th November 2012 ESTReport Abuse

    Raegun What you see as hatred is simply people passionately stating their disgust wt the forced acceptance of something. Gays did not like being forced into the closet. but society made them do that. I would say the majority do not give a toss about gays but do not want to be forced to accept their lifetsyle as natural. Just because you are born gay does not in any way make you normal. Pedophiles, tyrants and psycho killers are born that way and they are like gays are not normal. Face it. Gays have become the bullies in society, and people are beginning to express their passion against them for that reason. I do not hate all gays. I do hate some gays but that is because of what they have done to me. I also get on very well with some. But I detest all pedophiles, whether I have met them or not.

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  3. Global06:39am Friday 30th November 2012 ESTReport Abuse

    I just love the arguments some people (SUE and SMACKZ) put across. Smackz. there is no normal. We are all different and individual and we should accept that. But we want to take over your tradition and culture so we can be the same. SUE get over it your homophobes. Well insults and bizarre reasoning does not do away with the fact that homosexual lifestyle is not natural. By all means they should not be killed or arrested for the way they are wired, but I have yet to hear anything which makes me see their point of view. They try to bully the opposition into silence, and that to me is totally unacceptable and shows that their point of view is flawed and wrong.

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  4. Smackz07:54am Friday 23rd November 2012 ESTReport Abuse

    lmao - Homosexual... Homosapian. Hello? #$%$ ^_^

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  5. Smackz07:42am Friday 23rd November 2012 ESTReport Abuse

    Mr B... you're kidding right? NORMAL people?? Define what constitutes a "normal" person! Tall, blonde, blue-eyed? Working? On the dole? Handicapped? Black, white,brindle? Skinny, solid, obese? Male, female? People born with extra limbs or organs? People who are born one sex only to realise they really should be the other? People born with both sexual organs? Siamese twins? People who speak English? It is ridiculous to even phathom there is such a thing as a "Normal" person. Individuality is what makes us who we are!! NOBODY is 'normal'. We are all different, we are all people and believe it or not... we all bruise/bleed the same way too. Is ignorance really that blissful?

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